Day 3 (December 8, 1999)Session: AMSR Sensor Team Workshop Room: 104 Agenda:
Summary of Major Discussions1. Soil Moisture (Dr. Jackson)Dr. Jackson presented the status of the algorithm development and focused on SGP 99. His presentation covered the following topics.
Dr. Njoku didn't detect persistence evidence of RFI at 6.6GHz with the data taken over Oklahoma area in 1987. 2. Soil Moisture (SM) (Dr. Palocia)Dr. Palocia presented the status of the algorithm development and focused on SGP 99. Her presentation covered the following topics.
Dr. Jackson: Ground test provides one point data for 150km spacecraft data footprint. Because of this fact, it is difficult to validate spacecraft data using ground data. TMI data is better than SSM/I because of its higher resolution. Dr. Koike: The total number of match-up dataset is 50 and only 4 are good. The NDVI is 0.3. You need to select good sites for meaningful evaluation. 3. Soil Moisture (SM) (Dr. Njoku)Dr. Njoku presented the status of the algorithm development. His presentation covered the following topics.
Question (Dr. Jackson): Do you use radar data? Answer: Yes. Simon uses radar data. We will get radar data by the end of this month. 4. Match-up dataset (RESTEC Mr. Muto)Mr. Muto presented a generation plan of match-up dataset that will be used for AMSR validation. His presentation covered the following topics.
Answer (Dr. Koike): Yes, it is possible. However, the data have to be routinely taken. Comment (Dr. Jackson): I guess Tibet is chosen because of its low vegetation level. Illinois is in high vegetation level throughout the year. Question (Dr. Comiso): For Sea Ice data, we need high-resolution data such as Landsat and AVHRR data. Can you add those data to the match-up datasets? Answer (Dr. Koike): This was discussed in the Cal/Val session on December 9th. Question (Dr. Hwang): Do you plan to archive all experimental datasets in a central location? Answer (Dr. Shibata): No. It would be a big project to implement a central archive for all experimental datasets. Comment (Dr. Koike): JAXA will not prepare all match-up datasets. 5.SWE (Cal/Val) (Dr. Koike)Dr. Koike presented the status of calibration/validation activities for snow water equivalent measurement. His presentation covered the following topics.
Question (Dr. Chang): Who is the leader of the Canadian team. Answer: Dr. Ron Stewart is the leader of the science team. For snow, Dr. Barry Goodson is the lead. Question (Dr. Comiso): What kind of snow radiometric characterization is planned? Will you have a dielectric probe or microwave radiometer? Answer: We don't have such a plan. If we can cooperate with the AMSR-E team, we can do. It is difficult for ground measurements. 6.SWE (Cal/Val) (Dr. Chang)Dr. Chang presented the status of calibration/validation activities for snow water equivalent measurement. His presentation covered the following topics.
7. AP (Cal/Val) (Dr. Aonashi)Dr. Aonashi presented the status of calibration/validation activities for precipitation measurement. His presentation covered the following topics.
Comment (Dr. Petty): This is an excellent opportunity to do cold season precipitation validation that has never been conducted enough in the past. The proposed validation will give more insight into the relationship between snow fall and microwave measurement. Comment (Dr. Lobl): The AMSR-E team plans the validation plans separately from the AMSR team. We need to talk and combine efforts. This subject will be further discussed on Thursday morning. 8. SIC (Dr. Nishio)Dr. Nishio presented the status of calibration/validation activities for precipitation measurement. His presentation covered the following topics.
Comment (Dr. Cavalieri):AMSR-E snow depth on sea ice is a standard product. 3 aircraft campaigns are planned for the next three years. 9. SIC (Dr. Comiso)Dr. Comiso presented the status of calibration/validation activities for precipitation measurement. His presentation covered the following topics.
10. SST (Cal/Val) (Dr. Shibata)Dr. Shibata presented the status of calibration/validation activities for SST measurement.Questions & Answers, and comments:None Question (Dr. Takeuchi): Temporal accuracy is important. Do you plan to continue WVP-1500? Answer (Mr. Imaoka): Yes. A minimum time for observation is 15 minutes. 11. SST (Cal/Val) (Dr. Chille Gentlemann for Dr. Wentz)Dr. Gentlemann presented the status of SST calibration and validation activities. Her presentation covered the following topics.
Answer: No, we use RTM based algorithm. Question: Pathfinder is systematically bad. Those results show Pathfinder having a larger bias in Water Vapor than MCSST. Answer:Yes, larger bias, maybe due to Pathfinder interim version rather than Version 4.1 (not available yet). Question (Dr. Comiso): The Reynolds data were used as input to the Pathfinder algorithm. The latter algorithm actually made the input product worth. Is this true? Answer: Yes. Question (Dr. Dunbori): What is penetration depth? Answer: 1mm. Question (Dr. Njoku): How do you know which of these products is an accurate one with respect to water vapor? Answer: Atmosphere 97% transparent, we retrieve Water Vapor so our SSTs are not biased. Bias shown due to fact that SST & Water Vapor are correlated and also possible Water Vapor biasing in infrared SSTs. 12. SM (Cal/Val) (Dr. Koike)Dr. Koike presented the status of SM calibration and validation activities. His presentation covered the following topics.
Question (Dr. Jackson): Are you purchasing Chinese and Mongolian data? Answer: No. We are establishing a corroborative arrangement. Next year is an anniversary. Measurement taken 0 - 10 cm in depth. Similar to Russian data. There will be a problem. Answer: Yes, it is similar. 13. SM (Cal/Val) (Dr. Jackson)Dr. Jackson presented the status of SM calibration and validation activities. His presentation covered the following topics.
14. SM (Cal/Val) (Dr. Palocia)Dr. Palocia presented the status of SM calibration and validation activities. Her presentation covered the following topics.
Question: How quickly can you measure pitch and roll? Answer: No problem because the aircraft is rather stable and the incident angle very large. We have some problems with helicopter stability. 15. SM (Cal/Val) (Dr. Njoku)Dr. Njoku skipped his presentation because the previous presenters covered what he planned to cover.16. Home Page (Ms.Kachi)Dr.Kachi summarized two home pages that EORC have built on AMSR.
17. Presentation by New PI's(1) G. HeygsterDr. Heygster presented a study proposal and covered the following topics.
Question (Dr. Cavalieri): Have you compared sea ice drift results with Arctic Ocean buoy data? Answer: Yes, they compared well. Question (Dr.Takeuchi): Do you intend to find boundaries of sea ice? Answer: The original purpose of the study is (2) D. CavalieriDr. Cavalieri presented a study proposal and covered the following topics.
Answer: Much less than 1% of pixels are saturated. Question (Dr. Comiso): In the Odden region the effect of storm is to increase the ice concentration by about 30% when the 85GHz channel is utilized. This can be the reason why he retrieval over the Antarctic is almost 100% everywhere. Answer: This is not true. The algorithm saturates. We make use of atmospheric radiative transfer model to correct for atmospheric effects. (3) F. WentzDr. Wentz presented a study proposal and covered the following topics.
(4) A. LiuDr. Liu presented a study proposal and covered the following topics.
Question (Dr. Comiso): How do you resolve differences when QuikScat and AMSR data results do not agree but there is no buoy data to verify which one is correct? Answer: We can always find buoy data. Question (Dr. Comiso): In the Antarctic region, there are large areas where there are no buoy data. Answer: We can drop some buoys. (5) J. Schulz (Dr. Petty for Dr. Schulz)Dr. Petty presented a study proposal and covered the following topics.
(6) V. LakshmiDr. Lakshmi presented a study proposal and covered the following topics.
Answer: Distributed validation strategy is effective. (7) I. KaihotsuDr. Kaihotsu presented a study proposal and covered the following topics.
Question (Dr. Jackson): Do you just record data with AWS and ASSH or transmit data from AWS and ASSH? Answer: I just record the data. Question (Dr. Jackson): What is the shallowest depth of the measured soil moisture? Is it 0 - 10cm? Answer: We can measure at the different depth; 3cm, 8cm, 30cm, and 80cm. Question (Dr. Jackson): Who does on-site data collection, yourself or somebody else? Answer: We have a cooperative agreement with the Mongolian National Research Institute. The Mongolian National Research Institute does on-site data collection. (8) H. EnomotoDr. Enomoto presented a study proposal and covered the following topics.
Answer: Yes. (9) W. LiuDr. Liu presented a study proposal and covered the following topics.
(10) K. AonashiDr. Aonashi presented a study proposal and covered the following topics.
Answer: I plan to use other products in addition to precipitation. (11) M. FreilichDr. Freilich presented a study proposal and covered the following topics.
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